how do you see this? >> i think certainly prior to last year it was an issue of resources. it was also a failure of imagination on the part of the fbi. a lot of people are confused because they think that some of these cyberdefense issues are the spectrum of the department of defense. and they are. for the department of defense. each one of these agencies had their own area of responsibility and nsa and cybercommand were doing intelligence collection and offensive operations. but that doesn't impact individuals like mike mcfaul. the fbi who had responsibility in this instance in the physical united states should have notified these people, but they just didn't have the people in place to do that. so now we come to, after the post 2016 election it was very clear the united states mind-set was hacked by russia in a wide-ranging operation. we have a president who just doesn't believe any of this happened at all. therefore, nothing is going to get done unless it's mandated by congress itself and that the government starts a public/private partnership to