come to understand can be seen as a triangle with three points. authoritarianism. you highlighted the quotes that are worrying on that front. the second is his desire to make as much money as he can out of the presidency. and the third and the one that may be we have not paid enough attention to is psychic neediness. that was on display in the interview. the need to present himself as somebody powerful. people need to come to me and his responsive to flattery and the comments about the president of china. how big a smile is on the president of xi tonight and thinking the show on the tarmac, what dividends paid off in manipulating the president's ego. >> ambassador sherman, you can build on the point david makes. and this is an interview with so much in it, one point when asked willing to make deals, he says, yes. the reporter follows up and says you would move to the center on some of these issues.