though we don't know whether or not where this russia thing is going and whether or not you'll have to recuse. >> yeah. >> because i want you to say, rip children from their parents at the border. >> right. >> he could make that decision as a president, but i think the point is they didn't think it through. >> i want to come back to you in a second. but jason, even if they hadn't thought about it beforehand, once jeff sessions was actually before the senate judiciary committee for confirmation, at that point there was a flashing red light on him because he was being asked point blank did you have meetings with any russians. >> right. he was constantly using that very effective legal team i don't recall. and he said that a lot. i don't recall that. i can't remember this meeting. i can't remember boris or natasha and everybody should have known and seen this coming. this is very important, part of why donald trump can't get rid of sessions isn't just because of the fact that it would trigger a constitutional crisis and everything would explode and people would be afraid, one of the few things that the senate has made clear is that we like this guy and we're not going to