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when people -- their brain gets into a state that it's hard for us to understand. how could you ever do this? how could you leave a child? the brain gets into a state that's a medical emergency, and there should be no confusion. there are great treatments and effective treatments to prevent this. >> what are the conversations we're afraid to have? when we lose a family member or a loved one after the fact, we say why did we talk about it more? what are the conversations we're not having now with our friends or family or if we're the ones suffering from call it depression? what are we not telling people? >> i don't believe we're asking that question with the word suicide. they train us in psychiatry to ask are you having thoughts about killing yourself or not wanting to be here. we assess someone's plan and their attempt and what are the protective factors. the statistics you quoted of the individuals 2 .8 million with significant suicidal thoughts. 50% of those didn't have any

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