recipient who had that same problem. she was told by i.c.e. agents that they don't necessarily answer to federal judges, rather the president of the united states. it was quite a powerful interview. let me ask you about the chances that congress can pass anything to reunite children and families? >> it doesn't look like it, and it's a shame. you mentioned our efforts in 2013, bipartisan efforts, and we came pretty close to getting something that was a very, very comprehensive plan that would have prevented us from getting to this tragic situation we're in now. right now when eric cantor, the majority leader, lost his primary to george bratt, it made the immigration difficult to get through congress. it's become about primary economic politics more than anything else. you talk to republicans in congress and they say, one, we have to do comprehensive reform, we have a broken system, we need