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own judge. >> well, there's nine of them, remember. >> well, he'll be picking one of them. >> right. cases like this in the past, if you look at the nixon case and others, were decided unanimously. and i would think, i would hope that that wouldn't case here. although it's possible that it would not be. but i think to answer your first question it would be an expedited appeal up to the supreme court, so it wouldn't take very long at all. >> what do you think they would say? what's the court going to do? the court says -- we've been talking about this back and forth for months now. rudy giuliani acts like it's up to the defendant, the president, whether he wants to testify or not. i thought the nixon tapes and other case like those precedents said no, you've got to. bill clinton had to answer to a grand jury request and he did it. he didn't want to. the paula jones case. he didn't want to go out there. he did it. >> you i think at the end of the day for president clinton in particular it seemed to him and his advisers that it was just not tenable for the president of the united states to appear to be not cooperating with an investigation. i'm not sure that same old school mentality -- >> trump doesn't care what he looks like.

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