out his first tweet kind of attacking dr. ford, moments before, kellyanne conway said, i don't need to tell him what to do. he knows the right thing to do, and then this happened. she's a very dominating force in this white house. i think the president still listens to her n maybe -- i don't know this, but maybe she relayed that experience to him or tried to get him to understand that dr. ford should be heard. and he stuck with that for a couple days, but now he's back on the campaign trail making this an issue on the campaign trail which republicans hope this will motivate the base. >> he's been this curious kind of side figure in this discussion. yes, there have been times -- >> it's the ffrirst time we're covering a non-trump story in nearly a year. >> that's why people, regardless of whethre you come down on kavanaugh find this so troubling because it says something deep ber what's broken in our country than trump. for so long we've been used to