been some isolated incidents of left-wing political violence, but one of the themes of the trump years has been basically fascist street brawlers. >> yeah. i mean not even just the trump years. >> right. that's true. >> we go on twitter and look for david nauert's feed. he does work with the southern poverty law center. he rights about he's illuminationists. you can go find decades worth of events. yes, that shooting of the congressman was horrible. there are literally dozens like that of right-wingers doing a similar thing. >> can i also -- i guess it was six months now, maybe five months ago which in trump time i know is years, that he pardoned two members of a violent anti-government standoff, right? >> sure. >> he has been completely -- the idea that democrats or liberals are lawless when you have a president who encourages the worst sort of lawless violence