>> that right there, doesn't this change the characterization of president trump's relationship with michael cohen? he has tried to downplay it and minimize it. he did a little bit of business with me. michael cohen is changing that narrative in a big way. i doubt there will be e-mails because president trump doesn't use e-mail but cohen is telling a different story and he's naming the president. >> the president makes a pattern of trying to distance himself with former aides who are cooperating or pled guilty. you remember what he said about paul manafort, he was briefly involved when, in fact, he was campaign chairman for almost a year. the idea that the president is going to put some space, it's something he does. >> i am going to leave you for this hour. what an hour this has been. michael cohen has now left the federal courthouse in downtown manhattan and arrived at 9:00 a.m. this morning where he pled guilty to lying to -- lying to congress.