his own citizens in prison camps while starving ten oz of thousands more. and the president dismissed intelligence reports while appearing to back off his reversal of denuclear zaz. >> you have seen chairman kim increase the number of missiles and continue to produce more nuclear material. >> some people are saying that and some are denying that. >> are you still thinking you want north korea to guv up everything too, do complete, verifiable -- >> i don't want to say that to you because i don't want to put myself in that position. >> joined by former national security staffer under both obama and bush administrations. and former analyst for the cia.