se seth, like you, a lot of people think he's -- >> why do you have to hurt my feelings? >> it seems like kind of a screwy system that those two guys, a proven win in the red state and one of the biggest rising stars are not on the debate stage. what do you think about that? >> i don't think we need to be win ownowing the field this ear. iowa, new hampshire, they should winnow the field. i don't think the small dollar donation idea is the best either. i think it's having a lot of unintended consequences to where people are raising lots of money and then spending 25 to 50, some are saying up to $75 to get a $1 contribution. so i don't think that's the way to do it. >> i'm not trying to lure you to attack the dnc, but you feel
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