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or often you feel, like, misunderstood, and you want to get into the dark side of life, not that you know anything about it particularly. and so bacon, for me, wasjust, he kind of spoke to me. ijust thought, "this is just amazing that someone does this." and also, he was very articulate. when did you first see his paintings? i can't remember. i must have been about 13, 14. i can't remember the first time. and then you read what he's written about himself and the interviews, and you see him in interviews. he's incredibly charismatic. you didn't go to art school, did you? no, thank god. i would have been taught all those techniques that| i don't want to know. i mean, i want to find my own technique, because if you're l trying to do something, if you're trying to do - something that's rather - different and new, you can't use the old techniquesl which, arm, which have already been used. you make your own technique. and he talks in a very interesting way about art, i felt. so i was absolutely smitten with him. and then you get to know more about him and his lifestyle, you just think, "wow, he's like a rock star," but a super—serious artist.