increasingly we're abridging our freedoms so as not to offend savages. the very idea that if something offends me or i don't -- or i'm insulted by something, i'll kill you, and that way i can get my way, and somehow this is okay with members of the elite media, and academia, is outrageous. >> well i mean but pam, nobody -- >> it's a cartoon. it's a cartoon. >> sure. >> it's a cartoon. >> and nobody -- this warrants the violence that you saw. i mean i haven't heard anyone in the media saying that it's okay for gunmen to show up at an event like this. but what people are saying is that there's always this fine line you know, between freedom of speech and being intentionally incendiary and provocative. >> intentionally incendiary and provocative by drawing a cartoon. this is the low state of freedom of speech in this country. i disagree and i disagree most vehemently. the first amendment, not the eighth not the tenth, but the
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