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>> mix everything together. perfect. so is it fair to say your hobby got out of hand? >> yeah, actually. i mean, the thing that used to be my escape has become my life. and some people say, oh, that's a perfect way to kill the thing you love. but in this case, it hasn't happened. >> survivalists do whatever they have to do to survive. but hank is not a survivalist. he's just a guy who wants to eat well. without depending on other people he doesn't know to sell him food he has no connection to. it's worked. but make no mistake, hank is thriving. >> i'm not really necessarily asking people to do what i do. what i really hope people do is take a piece of what i do, whether it's hunting, whether it's fishing, whether it's foraging berries or picking clams in the seashore. something about it will float your boat. pass it around until you find it and make it yourself and pass it on.