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are more than capable of finding ways and one of these ways i'm sure if you were to ask him in which to move forward, that is continuously continue to build those police and community relationships. that is the one thing that is the most important. even though they still have this sense of crisis that they're going through. i think what's going to be really important for that commissioner and for that community is that we have to continue to engage in those relationship-buildings. that is going to be the one piece that's going to help that community move forward. you've got two things going over here. you have an active investigation in a community that's still upset. but you also must have a police department and community working together in order to resolve whatever issues may come up in the future. >> because it's been said tom, you know some of those police officers feel they've been thrown under the bus. >> i think so. what do you tell them as far as trying to reduce the number of murders occurring, the shootings