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tradition of actual, real-life spooky science fiction stuff. the manhattan project in los alamos, nuclear missile silos hidden deep beneath the desert floor. it's out there. >> so where are we? >> ground zero of where everything seems to have started. >> submitted for your approval. norio and his friend james, two men associated with the new mexico ufo and paranormal forum. >> this is where america's rocketry actually started. >> at the end of world war ii, classified units of the cia and army intelligence were busy sandbagging and sneaking away from probable prosecution, cadres of the world's best rocket scientists. did i mention they were nazis? oh, yeah. many of them were sent around here. >> other very mysterious things even took place allegedly in 1947. >> 1947, roswell incident. >> that's right. that's still a mystery. >> some say.