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have had success with varying kinds of vaccine health passes. we ever seen that in france and that's most recently been extended into the next summer where that will mean citizens will have to prove they have had the vaccine to access recreational activities like going to the theater or cinema or traveling a long distance on a train within the country. in italy, slightly tougher measures there. that vaccine green pass. those work in both the public sector and private sector have to prove they have had the vaccine or could face some hefty penalties, even suspension without pay. so there is a real push there to get the vaccine, to get -- for people to get that job. just to ensure governments are in the best possible place to tackle the pandemic, particularly as we head into the winter months. and particularly, as governments try to tackle the spread of the highly-transmissible delta variant. michael? >> yeah, just having gotten back from france, myself, the -- the -- the pass there is required in many, many places. you are just not going to get in. so seems to have some effect. good to see you there in london.