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to just continue the terror to show ukraine -- ukrainians throughout the country that russia is hitting everywhere. it just doesn't make sense from a military perspective. again, none of these strikes against cities do make sense because none of them are military targeting. >> similarly, in dnipro, as well, which hadn't been hit. a shoe factory, an apartment block, a school. i mean, it does remind me a little bit of what the assad regime with the help of russians did in syria. where it was really terror from the skies aimed at frightening civilians and diverting sort of military resources to dealing with civilian casualties. >> yeah. i -- i -- i completely agree with you. this has become the russian way of war. the dnipro strike i think is a little bit different than the lutsk strike because you see that town of dnipro halfway between mariupol and kharkiv and i think what part of the