not know enough about foodborne illness. and so more research absolutely must be conducted in this area. people do not realize that the foodborne illness is not just a tummy ache. it is much more serious, many times, than that. and for the ones who do survive serious cases of foodborne illness, they will have sometimes long-term health outcomes such as diabetes or chronic kidney, you know, disease. >> i know it's kind of a two-pronged approach. like you said, we need to know more about the foodborne illness. but how much of it is that we need to prevent our food from being tainted in the first place? >> oh, absolutely. one thing that kevin's death really pointed to me was that prevention is key. tracing back the source of your food is very difficult if you're