dollars is often a lot like redirecting our turning an aircraft carrier. it's a monumental task. >> andrea: making some excuses. all right. now the president has similar sentiment that equally this bill is not ideal for washington lawmakers. take a listen to the president. >> this has been a long and messy process. as with any compromise, the outcome is far from satisfying, but it also launched an important debate how we approach the big challenges we face. how we rebuild our economy to create greater opportunity. and about whether we tackle our challenges by drawing on our best values as one country. everyone pitching in and playing by the same rules. >> andrea: a lot of people think president obama came out of this a loser. let's discuss is president obama a loser or winner the debt debate. kimberly, you say he is a loser? >> kimberly: thanks. nice, in a respectful way like