about this suggests that he's either not being truthful, or not doing his job, at all. >> yeah, the implication of that, and this idea that the nsa is somehow a rogue agency, like in a hollywood film where they just got all these people going out on their own and listening to whoever they feel like just because, well, it feels good, and we can do it so we will do it. that's not really plausible. >> the nsa came out this week on wednesday hearings with the head of national intelligence, and head of nsa and saying first of all, everything we do, we get guidance from the white house. and yes, you can always say this was -- this information came from this, it's something as important as we got it from the chancellor of germany angela merkel that would be fairly clear to the president when he's being briefed. >> so there's some discussion now that what should happen is we have, the united states has, an agreement with five countries, britain, canada, australia, new zealand and the