they have knowledge and access. >> would it be an i.t. person then? >> i.t. folks have the most level of access. you think of them as being the kings of the network. they have access to networking equipment, file shares and servers where all of your data is stored at. it is the same thing that happens to edward snowden where he was able to take a significant amount of data from the nsa and from there release it because he was a systems administrator. i came from that field as well. when you are an i.t. admin you have access to almost everything. a lot of times they don't have appropriate controls to see if someone is misusing or abusing that materials. >> can you detect whether someone is downloading that information on to their discs using something to swipe that information planning to use it for other material elsewhere. >> the security industry has been warning about the insider threat for a number of years. it is a bit of a conundrum