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white power symbol. >> juan: what about pepe the frog. >> jesse: are you talking about a cartoon? you accused these people of being racist. they put their lives on the line for this country. you said they were racist. a symbol with their hands. and you should apologize because i'm giving you an opportunity. >> juan: you're giving me an opportunity to figure out how you can hype and destroy something. >> jesse: i said the truth. i didn't distort anything. >> juan: these kids were playing a game according to the investigation. it was done quickly and it was found out to be what it is. and they were told -- they said to the kids, don't do this because that's bad behavior. and they will be punished. >> greg: for -- first of all, it was at a football game where people like to have fun. and they were having fun. you can go back and say, okay, this all began as a hoax on forchan. that's all it was. they tricked the media to thinking that was the symbol. the problem is, it worked. because the media wanted to