oppressive fear about the devastating consequences of having health care and while apartheid divided people, the affordable care act unites them. joining me now is representative of california karen bass and white house correspondent for american urban radio networks april ryan. thanks to you both for joining me. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> congresswoman, nelson mandela, the communist. i mean, these guys just don't even know their his. >> ri no, they don't. they -- it's ignorance is embarrassing. it's a reason why the image on the continent had to be repaired after what our role was in the apartheid regime. and why we had to have a mass movement to pressure the u.s. government to break ties with the south african regime. so it's an ignorant statement and it's not surprising coming out of bill o'reilly. >> it is not. april, interestingly enough, i just did a little bit of what i