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through and people start thinking about 2024, i think the midterms are probably a lost cause and beyond that, i think there's opportunity for democrats if they could just quit litigating the past and start legislating the future with policies and ideas about the economy and climate and all of these other issues that republicans are jumping on that are typically democratic issues. >> finally eugene, a lot of us were very sad to hear this afternoon, that same political writer and longtime and msnbc guest p.j. o'rourke had passed away, i wanted to get your take on his legacy. , such a smart guy. incredible range great writer and he had, it wasn't really out of left field i would say but certainly a different yet rigorous view of events and of people he was really i think an