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it's not, simple it's not, easy but there's examples of how it can be done well. >> now, the u.s. africa leaders, the summit with 49 meters continuing today here in washington. they're focusing on trade, investment and health, agriculture, agribusiness. would this make a difference? do you think there is a reality to backup these pledges? >> i hope so. it's very, very important, this summit. because there's two stories of africa, one is of africa rising and that is trading, moore has a growing middle class of 350 million people. but the other side of the story is the significant number of african countries who are struggling. somalia is an obvious example, ethiopia with political and conflict problems as well as the drought. but i also want to mention countries like bali, like chad in the seashell, where malnutrition its rights. if you're in a stable state that isn't that, warrior 20 times less likely to be in