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so they have to appeal to them by trying to mimic them. that's part of it. the other part of it is this deep resentments. and desantis in particular displays, it against the fact that in their mind at some point elite universities stopped serving rich white men and their interests and became these sort of pluralistic places where ideas about racial pluralism and economic pluralism and wokeness, inclusiveness, affirmative action, those things in their mind poisoned these institutions. they think they've got to purge education, the whole system, from k-12 all the way through graduate school, of liberalism, because liberalism actually jeopardizes the thing they care most about, which is tax cuts for the superrich. >> and patriarchal power. >> and patriarchal power. they hate the fact that they believe that the universities have done. it they are right in this one cents. one thing the universities have done is make it very difficult for republicans to win in any town that's got a university in it. >> that's the break. that is the thing that divides democrats 100 percent. if education. in the profile in new york