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that you wouldn't want people to violate in a healthy democracy, breaking the rules. the issue has always been, and so what? who's going to enforce these noel roll norms, these rules, these laws? we are now in a process, which is a landmark as a democracy for us, that he is not in control of how this adjudicated, that this is going to be decided by a court, with consequences for him, if, in fact, he violates those written terms of his bail. >> and two judges, i think, and he has a similar warning from judge chutkan in washington, d. c.. i'm not a lawyer but i think it eight years that we've been covering trump, but i think this idea of a different enforcer of the violation of the norm is super interesting. it remains to be seen, because arguably what he said in tucker carlson does violate a threat.