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allegations that a sitting president has with private individuals and using the levers of power sought to fundamentally subvert the democratic republic and the electoral system. and frankly if that kind of fact pattern arises again, i think it would be awfully scary if there weren't some sort of mechanism by which to reach that criminally. >> let's bring in nbc's yamiche alcindor and walk us through what happened in court today and what comes next there. >> reporter: well, another historic day here in washington, just behind me, former president trump and special counsel jack smith and lawyers both in court arguing before this three-judge panel. the central issue is former president trump, is he absolutely criminally immune from some sort of prosecution? his lawyers argue yes, he is.