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out. there was tension between the two. it was never the political relationship that we all thought it was at that time. there's been tension in sort of rifts throughout the process. they did a very good job of working together when he was president and desantis was governor. they held hands, had picnics in the park, did everything they needed to protect the idea of unity. but it wasn't always what we thought it was and we kind of now have seen that come up in the presidential race. >> well, yeah, some of us remember the campaign ads with desantis is a small child building a wall and wearing a maga onesie, but that sounds like it was more just sort of pomp and circumstance as opposed to deep-seated admiration that ron desantis had for donald trump. >> absolutely checking a box in that moment in time. that was when donald trump was a big political powers. endorsement helped desantis gain a ton in the polls. he was nationally not just relevant but everything in that moment in time. they realize they had to do what they had to do to continue