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worked with the available information? you're one of the people that contributed to the public record on this and proven not only her case, but that the fine should be that stiff? >> i think the issue is the kind of pain it will inflict on him to pay a fine of that amount. he's never been a wealthy as he claimsbe. he's a comfortably rich man, but he's not a multi-billionaire. $370 million i money. the bigger part of the penalty that will hurt him reputationally and in terms of his sense of his legacy is if they're precluded from doing business in the state of new york. he rose to fame and riches on his father's shoulders. his father was an authentic entrepreneur and built the family's real estate holdings that trump made great use of. all that gets tied in a bow and shoved out the door if he loses the case. the wild card here is that judge engoron has a lot of discretion