some kind. we don't know. >> if you were still cia director, what would you be telling your agents to do right now? >> well, collect intelligence is the key thing, and find out who's running the rebellion. there are rumors that there are some people connected with al qaeda involved, muslim brother hood. on the other hand, a number of them appear to be sincere opponents of gadhafi, who is a terrible dictator. we need to know a lot more. the cia made a mistake 20, 30 years ago in iran by just listening to the shah and not getting out and learning about people like khamenei and otherwise. they were not in the country at the time, but we should have known a lot more about the people who might take over if there is a rebellion, and the same thing's true now. >> okay. the president has said he's not ruling in, neither is he ruling