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is abject national surrender which is untenable an unsustainable with your own public you mention your role in camp david well please the. son in law the man behind this quoted camp david negotiations as part of the informing this deal i was involved in negotiations for part of the oslo agreements we were part of a back to. as as an israeli official at the time for camp david we were at the top a negotiations i took part in those several months later what jarrad kirshner is done has taken what was anyway. a distance that still existed between the parties that distance existed at camp david and every subsequent negotiation right to return famously wasn t in the core the right of return wasn t there and there were going to in a 2 state outcome you probably have to finesse that but what gerrard has done his has taken this and don t like that he s tried to pull it in a totally different direction and that is intentional because and they re explicit about this they want to reset the terms of reference and in so doing i think they may have put the final nail in the coffin of 2 states because those terms of reference have now become bantu stands by. well i mean there s lots of play about the oslo accords which is when it comes to this deal what do you make of the person all over the david jarrett krishna s house i mean basically was it written by netanyahu the deal of the century i think when eventually the stories come out about who this was written by. this is an israeli hand on the pen and not just any israeli hand this is the hands of the more hard line elements inside israel unbelievably ambassador david friedman who is the american. former bankruptcy lawyer for president trump ambassador to israel now ambassador in jerusalem he was a donor not as a private individual prior to taking up an official role he was a donor to the settlements. i think he is a driving force behind that and in his backroom do not sit seasoned american diplomats professionals well versed in this in his back room writing all his plans of the settler movement and he actually tweeted. thank you dr dori gold for your input dori gold is a former policy adviser a former official working on the nuts and yahoo iran s hard line institute in jerusalem i once wiped the floor with him in an intelligence squared debate and these are the kind of people who are running the show writing these texts and you can see it when we invade them and of course the current israeli ambassador to britain due to no doubt refute exactly what you re saying but how dangerous is it now for israel s existence because the deal is definitely united the arab world the international community this comes after a mass unity against trumps aerial killing as a summation of customs from a mommy iran s top general the end of a j c p o a is there now a gathering unity against israel. no i wouldn t put my emphasis on that action. yes we ve had the rhetorical condemnation from the arab league and from many other quarters in the world i think yes a communal popular level this is deeply offensive to many people around the world. but let s also be practical i m not expecting. whether it s arab governments or other governments in europe or elsewhere to take practical measures to hold israel accountable to actively push back against this plan to end the in punitive which israel has enjoyed and which is led to the very situation we re in today ok because a writer money was reputedly carrying a peace plan between saudi arabia and iran the big unity that could presumably really threaten israel reserve we actually just abiding by un resolutions i think that could pose a threat but where i think this is most problematic for israel and where i think the largest threat to israel lies is the following there are just over 6000000 israeli jews and about the same number perhaps a little more palestinian arabs in the areas controlled by israel inside israel itself in jerusalem in the occupied territories in gaza which is still you mentioned the situation in gaza which is basically controlled by israel the aspace the territorial waters they go in and now israel could make peace with the united arab emirates tomorrow and it wouldn t change the fact that they re on the land and what these dogs. by essentially withdrawing the option of a 2 state outcome is it means israel is left with the following choices rolling the dice that the palestinians will forever accept an apartheid reality where you have to expel the palestinians if you want all the land which i think is not inconceivable but incredibly risky and ugly. and likely to generate a backlash and against international law but i suppose that all of you or you go through what is now being teed up which is an anti-apartheid struggle where the palestinians say we can t now have a state you ve taken the option of a state which was a huge concession for us you ve taken that off the table give us our equal rights in the one political space that you have created which i think is now the general may not be the opinion amongst policymakers and think tanks and so on that a one state solution is the only way forward but. amidst all of this do you think that arab governments are also in danger little in israel as they try and contain their own populations anger against israel or do you think that they re the government continue to think and there has been reports more between israel and saudi arabia they they believe they could tag on to the u.s. and british backed israeli government i think that is the bet that is being placed in many arab capitals the bet that is being placed is. that there is a generational divide that comes into play with this contact with this conflict as well and the bet that s being placed is that those young people do not care about this issue forgotten. and doesn t have the iconoclast extatic that it used to i think that s a misplaced bet over time is this one of the things of that eventually. leads us to hitting a tipping point very possibly well if it threatens israel or threatens the arab governments from future arab spring to that might not such a great idea arguably you ve also suggested that trump is applying a marxist approach patton s the contradictions that have been lasting for so long in the region just explained when i think one of the things the peace process offered was not probably a path to peace but a process that has been over a quarter of century chugging along it offered people a comfortable landing place not comfortable obviously for the not found others opinions on the palestinians ends of 38 more brutal it offered the international community an easy escape route to say we have a peace process of course we re dealing with this issue you strip that away it s the emperor has no clothes this is what trump has done either your with a colonial apartheid project or your with that to freedom for the palestinians the question that israel is dodged all these years of fees this apartheid you re creating are you ready to have a palestinian state and then your key patient or is this permanent inequality that has been answered and now the way to reverse that may not lie in 2 states and now they will have to confront the question do we stick with the trump apartheid plan or do we do something that actually creates a different incentive structure for israel so that s why i think a shop in the country. and in the thank you. after the break 24 hours from the new hampshire democratic primary trump 2020 advisory board member lieutenant steven rogers says no matter who wins new hampshire the democrats have 0 chance of getting back claws into the white house and a perspective from outside the 2 body system of the united states former green party vice presidential candidate john the braga speaks to us from arguable u.s. client state colombia all the more coming through of going on the ground. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i ll be speaking to guests of the world of politics sports business i m show business i ll see you then. the holder doctrine eric holder former attorney general under obama this is the idea that banks are systemically important they can t be prosecuted because this would be a danger to the society as a whole but what s remarkable is that this idea has bled over into other industries out now boeing has a major scandal on its hands and it s claiming that a systemic way important in the law doesn t apply to us other agricultural companies are saying now we re systemically important we re above the law that is leading to bionic. takhar see this becoming a i think it s a cackle stock or c. is the right word it s ruled by the least qualified are now in charge of running the economy and results obviously catastrophic. donald trump might appear showy and shallow but he has once again defied his critics this time by securing his impeachment acquittal what is it about the 45th president of the united states that makes people love and hate him so the. in his community there are people who believe that it s ok to suffer actual food on my table it s really hard there are no jobs and you see that i ve got kids that ask and as a parent. i can come up with lots of arguments and there s a lot of conflict within the game between the 2 most of the conflict i would say over balls around money and most of their money is made. close one on each of those he know each other this could cost the state of california alone to make $6000000000.00 a year off to prison complex just to get some point in your life where. you don t care anymore no i care about your so you care mind anything. welcome back us democrats will be hoping tomorrow s new hampshire primaries don t go has got a straw for the wrong is last week s iowa caucuses but what about the g.o.p. in new hampshire could it make all the difference with all trump trying to stay in the white house joining me via skype from new jersey s lieutenant steve rogers from the advisory board for trump 2020 thank you so much return for coming all know how much of a threat is prayer. if he wins new hampshire tomorrow. well bernie sanders is actually more of a threat to the democratic party than for the president of the united states and the g.o.p. look there s no one no one at all in the democrat party was going to defeat donald trump the problem that bernie sanders is facing is a resurgence of extreme left people in his party that consider him to old establishment that such are so threat to the g.o.p. a big threat to the democrat party itself we haven t i mean scientists policy foreign policy adviser matt does he s claiming trump has strengthened mcgauran venezuela trump is strengthened russia in what he cools and the american hemisphere inside is actually is a hard left as you make out or is in fact more whole can trump is and trump is a dove well look. i would say that president trump is more of a very balanced leader between a hawk and a dove and i could prove it keep in mind that president trump had many opportunities to use military action against syria or any and he did not we had the incident where the iranians blew up a boat they launch missiles at a u.s. base of the president was very very restrained so that argument that is brought from the left is completely inaccurate we have a president with relation to russia i could tell you that the president at least in my view sees russia as an emerging power and at this time him and lattimer putin have been able to sit down and do a lot of discussion rather than a return to the cold war a jew biden is even in the c.n.n. town who will continue to say trump is a russian asset more or less. well of course that s a lot of nonsense and that s politics as usual they have nothing they can pin on the president of the united states look they said that russia was deeply involved in some sort of idea to interfere in our elections it ended up being a hoax russia has been a long time target of people who just seem like they want to always make russia our enemy now we have a president who at the very least is able to sit with the russian leader rather than be an antagonist is that the n.c. basically doing your job for you in what happened as regards his acquittal in the senate as regards the miller inquiry is that the n c the real drum 2020 advisory board the d.n.c. cannot stop giving us gifts i mean this has been absolutely marvelous what they re doing to help president trump get reelected that they have failed every single step of the way now we re trying to figure out what s next whatever is next it will cause a huge surge in the president s popularity look his popularity is now very very high as a result of their ridiculous actions against him in by the way against the american people of course you tool it israel and to stand what do you make of scientists claim that u.s. aid should be leveraged u.s. aid to israel and of course the iran deal should be reinstated well israel has always been a very strong compromising l.-i to the united states israel i don t believe we ll ever see a cut they re glued to us they re glued to the united states and we re going to continue to support them and with regard to any disruptions in the mideast israel has been a big partner and helping us stabilize that region ok but hang on israel is a self declared jewish state sonde is would be the 1st of a jewish president. well it doesn t seem like it makes much sense with bernie sanders taking the ucas issues that he s taken but it boils down to politics a politician s will sell their souls. they will do whatever it takes even compromise on very strong principles that this nation has standing apart to get reelected that the magic of donald trump he can t be bought he can t be sold he owes no one nothing the only people he owes is god in the american people you see trump last time around in the eloquent woods of steve bannon of the state of the union was talking about those people who suffered under globalization and the death of manufacturing industry i mean the latest statistics are the usa has never been more unequal trump for the 1st time the richest $400.00 families paid an average 23 percent tax well the bottom half paid 24.2 percent tax i mean how he going to get to wisconsin and the midwest states if you know democrats can point to the fact there s an exceptional inheritance tax so single people can leave 11000000 dollars couples $22000000.00 to their children a lot of these situations that are set up like that have nothing to do with the federal government these are state laws the states each state assembly each of these letters really tax cut. well the trump tax cut i can tell you i don t know where they get their information from but i ve been around this country and the minorities for example in this state have never never seen a boost in their salaries they ve never seen tax cuts like they have they ve never seen an employment let rate like they have and i myself i ve got to tell you i looked up my 41 k. a 2 weeks ago i was stunned over the amount of money that was put into that for one k. and i m not rich i m a middle class american so this idea that ok but hang on hang on with that 36000000 americans tonight will not be able to eat a meal they will be able to eat enough to live without federal assistance what he did was he s making sure that the fraud and the abuse and a lot of people who are actually not qualified for that aid is going to be filtered out their people yes that are unable to eat well you know there are a lot of jobs available i could tell you myself i ve seen people who are ready able and body to go to work they want their they have jobs those 36000000 have jobs and 80 percent of us workers live paycheck to paycheck i know let me i think no one can blame trump directly for all of this because it was a remarkably similar under the obama administration of course well keep in mind this is you re right these are years and years and years of policies that haven t worked it s not that look rome wasn t built in a day right so the president is trying to advance policies that will address those issues this guy s compassionate he gets it he understands there are a lot of problems in this country but yes what the united states congress has a lot of power they have not addressed this way way before president trump has been elected so hopefully we ll be able to address those issues moving forward why do you think trump tweets more about but he sont is than than any other candidate arguably. well you know it s i been asked that question many many times you know a lot of it s us i could tell you is a fine guy but look the president will take anyone on and he s going to win whether be bernie joe biden or whoever and just back to foreign policy the other candidates apart from songes on known to have supported previous wars but as i was saying when he signed his supported the war in yugoslavia war in afghanistan funding for the war in iraq trump he campaigned against wars before he became president and yet it s gone trump who assassinated in the rain in general catalyzing an attack on u.s. soldiers it s all a trump who dropped the biggest conventional bomb in history on afghanistan it s stone trump of seeking regime change in venezuela bolivia and other countries and it s donald trump who has prevented a major major regional war in the mideast by being very very restrained worth regard to a lodging any military action against iran and we re very guard to the general it wasn t a military general real generals don t kill their own people this guy was a terrorist the president absolutely without any doubt kept his word he would go after any terrorist anywhere on the face of the earth and he did so he has a president who i believe is a peace president not a war president obviously the iranian government denies that the tennessee religious thank you well for a different perspective i m joined now via skype from cali in columbia by former green party vice presidential candidate a job over aka john a welcome back to going on to go new hampshire tomorrow is the d.n.c. basically now at all out war against bernie sanders to try and destroy him after iowa where you know it seems like a. mini board very suspicious about what unfolded in our or be connected to the efforts to undermine senators coming from various elements of the of the corporate prez. unfavorable. articles coming out related to sanders ability to do street trouble and so many people believe that there is a concerted effort to do whatever is necessary to denying senders the nomination and are was seems to fit right into that their playbook the thing is a some polls show only scientists can beat trump and what is the democratic establishment got so against him pelosi was clapping for one white over the self-styled the leader of venezuela but even signed his own foreign policy man matt doesn t mean saying regime change is needed in venezuela or in sa his record is for supporting war in yugoslavia or afghanistan backing funding for the war in iraq where the democrats against bernie sanders because the democratic establishment they understand one concept in our concept is the power of the nap appeared to surrender the party to the center send his forces even if it means. losing to donald trump they re not really that concerned about who sits in the white house and more concerned though about maintaining control of their party and as you said returns a real policy. differences aren t that. much i mean you look at the policies with little while for example when both parties seem to be committed to a regime change you saw the response in the at the state of the union when the fake president was was introduced so it boils down to the whole issue of who controls the major parties and the major parties are still controlled by the elements of the transnational bush was think i should just say the baby why though isn t self-styled the you recognize. as it was the president of venezuela boris johnson met him in london just recently but income inequality is at its worst on record in the united states right now and yet liberal candidates like beat bush is as sure and that alone tainted candidates are going to be like joe biden this still running what does it say about the democrats that any of those people can still get votes in these primaries let alone maybe some of them win in the florida primary where is that the narrative of the democratic party and the reality is that people are are living our net have not converged and that s why a candidate like bernie sanders the so so much of a threat to those new liberal forces because he is he is personifying and articulating a message. that. all is not fine in the in the us republic is interesting that biden and booted. they have a message very similar to what was delivered by donald trump the other night and that is that everything is fine in the republic that the working class is doing just great but bernie sanders in his message is to contradict that and that s why he s seen as such a major not a logical threat to the democrats and really to the political economic order wiki leaks told us and 2016 they kind of things that were being done to sondra this campaign what do you expect this time around they re already signed as people saying that the app in iowa was somehow suspicious what do you think they re going to do just as this time and i should also say their letters now on twitter showing how close sanders was to the soviet union apparently well i ve been warning people for quite some time. even the concerted effort to undermine the ability of donald trump to to govern is going to pale in comparison to what. will be directed abroad of senators so i expect for the for it to be much more orderly i expect for there to be a coalescence of ruling class elements that has as a major in primary objective to deny bernie sanders the nomination so we re going to see all kinds of or dirty tricks all kinds of reports emerging that will paint bernie sanders as a commune is an enemy of the people and you name it so it s all out to undermine bernie sanders including cutting deals with people like elizabeth warren. thank you my pleasure that s it for the show will be back on wednesday 21 years since holding us president clinton was acquitted on 2 articles of impeachment buggery and obstruction of justice until then we get to continue the conversation on social media and subscribe to going underground on youtube. yes it s just so. the s. . and a very warm welcome to you you re watching us and. eat . eat. the end. of the air. show same wrong we re all just gone all. the world is yet to shape our disdain you can t add to it and in again because the trail. points on many find themselves worlds apart. just to look for common ground. iraqi officials suggest islamic state terrorists were behind the 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