there is a whole school of thought that says you know that, god's law and nature's law can supersede the constitution. a lot of people believe that. that is not the law of the united states. not what the supreme court has the said. not how the constitution is written. but, you know i think he is being sincere. he is just wrong. >> but it is interesting. the same people, who are arguing that, would have a problem with sharia and people who believe in sharia believe it should supersede the law of any given land? >> that's right. the constitution is clear and the way the court has interpreted the constitution, you know there are a lot of murky areas. this happens not to be one of them. you know, the -- the dred scott decision was overruled by the 13th and 14th amendment. everybody knew that. that was the purpose of the 13th and 14th amendment. so the idea that dred scott is still on the books is as you said factually inact rid.