understand. training camps where? did he mean in the middle east or mean here? i certainly didn't understand it hearing it again just now. and i think that's all he did. again, anderson, this is the kind of thing i think is the problem here in the media. is that we take these tiny little sound bytes and make them into manic controversies and this is going to be replaced by something else the next day and next day and next day. meanwhile, you've got people out there who to borrow from chris christie struggling with their lives and jobs and economy and we don't want to go there -- we don't go there enough, with this kind of intensity. we use these as distractions. that to me is the real problem here, well above and beyond this particular situation with donald trump. >> i think it's interesting anderson, that some random guy at a town hall meeting finally flum exed donald trump, when the best interviewers, including