get out of single digits. >> yeah, but i think that we've seen going after one another hasn't really worked. i think people are tired of that. they are put off by it. and this debate, you know, we're, what, 11 1 weeks out an haven't heard anyone take on the economy as the signature campaign issue. we haven't heard that. when the economy polls, number one issue, the economy isn't great despite the numbers. the middle class isn't feeling it. labor participation is low. and so this is an opportunity for those candidates like rubio and carson, i mean, excuse me, like cruz to actually demonstrate their chops of policy chops, economic chops and i think if carson doesn't have a solid performance on that, he could trip up because he's not necessarily known for policy specifics. >> jeffrey, i have no doubt moderators, fox is doing this. they are smart. i think they are going to go like a laser on economic issues