they started to do was looking for certain documents that were public domain that people told them about and realized we don't have these documents, we need to get them. there were two things that we've learned that were unprecedented. one, the number of materials that went to mar-a-lago with the former president instead of the national archives and number 2, the number of materials turned over to the national archives that were actually damage, ripped up, some of them put back together and some not. but they had a painstaking task with this president, the former president, trying to retrieve documents and put them together that were already turned in order to make sense of the documents because they were ripped. >> hold that thought, normalizing, a former counsel to the democrats, during the first impeachment and a cnn legal asked -- legal analyst. what stands out to you? >> well, that that we need