are strong, yes, we try our best, but we need more help, please. >> i think, for people who i know are judging you saying you should lead, i think nobody can understand what it is like to be in the situation you are in unless it actually happens to them in their country, and i think people make choices that may seem strange to people outside but when you're in a situation, when it's your country and your home and your husband fighting and these are your streets, it's -- >> exactly -- >> it's impossible to know what decision anyone would make. >> if you allow, i would give one example. before, we were thinking sometimes, from time to time, what about immigrating somewhere to another country, but when they started, became obvious like no, this is the place where we belong. this is our nation and this time, it's our challenge and we