place in international waters, the actual event? >> it matters in terms of it's going to be really difficult to figure out where to litigate this matter. you know, there's the united nations convention on the law of the sea, which really dictates how things are handled on the high seas when it comes to vessels, and even submersibles. so with all of these international considerations, this may be something that rises to the level of litigation at the u.n. level. >> let me ask you this. you're a maritime attorney. you told me you've dealt with cases on the surface before, shipping, et cetera. have you ever dealt with a case like this where there was a safety event where the person involved didn't go through any sort of classing, certification, measures, and even spoke publicly, as stockton rush did, about the sort of inconvenience of safety protocols like that? >> i've never heard of anything like this. this is completely unique, and at some point you have to wonder about the thought process leading up to this. typically when we litigate