every time i didn't just run against an epoint. i ran against the entire political apparatus that the clintons built over a 25-year period. i'm going to tell you, it's formidable. i know most of you probably think the most democratic state in the country is massachusetts. maybe you think it's oregon or vermont or maine or new york or new jersey, but you would be wrong. in the 1990s the most democratic state in all of america was arkansas. when i was elected lieutenant governor i was only the fourth republican elected in 150 years. >> listening to former governor of arkansas, mike huckabee, taking to the soapbox. so, kathy, you're back with me. he did not miss an opportunity to take a jab at hillary clinton and the e-mail controversy surrounding her. this seems like a perfect setting for mike huckabee. he seems like he can shine on the soapbox. >> absolutely. first of all, he has the experience of having run for president before, and that is really invaluable but, also, he has that easy, folksy style, a