of course, that was a conversation that we revealed two different readouts from the ukrainians and from the white house. the ukrainian one referencing the president talking about corruption investigations with the government, but the overall thing that you saw there from the president in the oval office was he defended his conversations with world leaders and he said his conversations are always appropriate, even though he said he doesn't know which one it is that this complaint stemmed from. but, kate, he also said that he believes joe biden is someone who should be looked into. he referred reporters to his statement, without clarifying which statement it is that he believed that reporters should look at, but the president was making that clear. and that's really been the whole sentiment here, is did the president imply to the ukrainians that they should investigate joe biden, open up an investigation into him in order to get that military funding, that aid funding that is supposed to protect ukraine from russia. and the president made clear that he thinks an investigation into joe biden something that would be appropriate, without detailing if that's exactly what he said to the president. and of course, the president is going to face more questions on