those people from doing so. so that kind of tells you something right there. >> i'm glad you mentioned the confusing in the messaging. abby, i would argue that is a point of this letter, right, is to confuse the public, because impeachment is confusing, is it an inquiry, what are the articles? all those things get jumbled under the umbrella of impeachment. they're very different. >> it's an effort to get everyone bogged down in process. just like this focus on the whistle proceeder, himself, which, frankly, is much less important considering we have the primary documents. we have the transcripts of the calm. we have these text messages that were shared between senior officials in the trump administration discussing this. so this is a part of the strategy to avoid talking about what the actual debate is about, which is about the president's behavior. i don't know, though, how effective that is. voters are typically not moved by process considerations. and so, it's a little bit of a