part of the deep state. i keep hearing that term used by a bunch of people who are new to government. i don't know what it means. just because you may have a different approach or different ideas, that's what we come together as a nation to do. out of many one eplural bus union. there is times for people to come together and find the best ideas. in my view, alex, this deep state is -- there's no such thing as a deep state, so i don't know what the president is talking about on that. >> and general, you were a commander in europe. we now have new reporting from our ryan brown at the pentagon the trump administration is cutting or planning to cut its contribution to nato's direct budget. how many of an impact is that going to have on nato operations and perhaps more importantly on those allies attitudes towards the u.s.? >> well, not getting into a math lesson, alex, but what's interesting is each nation in europe is supposed to spend 2% of their gdp on nato budget