>> this indictment charges the theft of fossils off of a number of different types of federal land. there are also charges in there that pertain to money laundering, structuring of currency transactions, false statements made to various government agencies. >> the indictments were an avalanche of charges. and it was just a massive document and it looked like a death blow to the institute. >> the government went just nuts or something, you know? i guess they just threw everything in and hoped something would stick. >> if you add up the time served for each of those counts, it comes to 353 years for me, which is longer than jeffrey dahmer was sentenced to prison for. and he killed and ate like 13 people. >> you know, it doesn't make sense. why do these accusations or things that we know were legal. >> 38 felony indictments, for collecting fossils? >> it totally blew me apart. i'm used to fixing things, and this was unfixable. it was so stupid.