now, the first is of course as the previous panel with my friend joe allen, look, this is not 2020. let's not say it's 2020. in other words, the tools we have whether it's vaccination or boosters or treatment now which is completely under played, the treatments that we have, better testing, make us stronger, make us more resilient against a virus that continues to not end but this is then the second part. i think this idea of a time when we get to unicorns and rainbows, just get it out of your head. when you keep talking about this new normal as if there is a place, this is no new normal. this is normal. i think one way to ground ourselves in particular our kids is to stop saying in two weeks. two weeks and two months and then just get through christmas. in other words, what normal is now? we're learning to adapt and manage around a virus that is killing people who are not, who