approach with the mayor of new york city. are these kinds of things -- are these the kinds of things that can change a president's momentum? >> i think the key for him changing momentum without question is changing conditions in the country itself. i mean, that is the principal reason i believe why his approval rating has fallen to where it is is that people are much more dissatisfied about underlying conditions in the country, particularly covid and inflation than in the spring. t i think an ancillary problem for biden, when you talk to people who conduct focus groups for both parties really is that the public really doesn't see him enough being engaged on the issues they care about. the white house has had a strategy generally speaking of after the omni presence of trump, of making him less visible, he's less in your face.