going, and i think for the public, yes, i can see why lots and lots of people in some of these more working class areas of the uk, they're thinking well, they've all let us down, but actually, the guy that they look like they might be rewarding for that, he's going to be the one who's really going to make their lives difficult because hard brexit is going to hit those places hardest of all. >> what did we learn about johnson and trump this week? he seemed very, very reluctant to embrace donald trump. is donald trump that toxic? >> yes, he is toxic. that was frankly a sensible thing to do, to keep as far away from donald trump as he could the week before election in a country where donald trump is not popular. >> but on brexit, his big strategy is we can get rid of europe and do a trade deal with the americans. he will pay a price. >> you would have said keep away. >> i wouldn't have said be rude to him. listen, he's going to pay a