security a boom preparation. in other words, just assume the bad thing will happen. that's why you're seeing hospitals hospitals, you're seeing the kind of response we're seeing throughout in terms of today the measure of success at this point is not whether people died but whether fewer people die because of the activities and the response we're seeing by law enforcement and public health officials. >> yeah. and i think it's really worth noting that there are now -- tomorrow is september 1st. there are new gun laws going into effect in texas making it easier for people to carry guns in place like schools and churches. is there any evidence that looser gun laws result in fewer communities? >> no. because if that were the case america would be the safest country in the world. in other words, this idea that if you have more guns fewer bad things happen is -- our data proves otherwise when you compare us to other countries. and i want to say something really important here because after each of these incidents we have this discussion about okay,