he's telling people at a golf club in new jersey six months after he left office he has secret information. this is incredibly damning because it undercuts all of the public defenses he's put forward. >> so back to the legal experts. if you look at donald trump's statements about this, we're going to talk about those later, but he's blaming everybody else. he says this is joe biden, this is the fbi, this is husband krutices. what is the power of a case where you have grand jury testimony by people who worked with donald trump, whether in the white house at mar-a-lago or donald trump's own words, hear his voice saying he knows he has something he's not supposed to have. >> prosecutors love recordings. that's like gold. it's one thing to have witnesses who testify about what a defendant did. you need that too. but to have the defendant in his own words in his own voice say the things that you're trying to prove and in the same vein knock