mall where i saw three men that had been killed just at the front entrance of the mall, and one of them inside the car i had been driving, and continued to proceed in an upper parking garage where i, again, saw more people streaming out. the police and the army who were working there were desperately trying to get people evacuated out of the building. i saw this as an opportunity to get inside, to go against the flow of the people and into the mall and to see what was going on inside, and that's really where we got a real sense of how bad things were. >> tyler, i know that i read that there were people inside the mall running outside, but once they ran outside the mall, there was firing going on there, too, so they ran back inside the mall. do you have any idea what kind of parameter these attackers